3D Tag Clouds
13 April 2009
The 3D tag cloud isn’t new, but I came across one in real life on a Sydney tours site. WordPress has been offering a 3D tag cloud for a while now, developed by Roy Tanck.
I’m not a huge fan of tag clouds as a navigation mechanism in general. They’ll probably prove to be a fad and will date the current generation of web sites. Sure, tag cloud provide a certain zeitgeist-effect and give a quick overivew. But as a navigation mechanism, tag clouds are pretty lousy.
The 3D tag cloud was fun to play with, but I don’t think it will revolutionize tag navigation in any way.
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13 April 2009 at 4:54 pm
Hi Jim,
I do have a different opinion on tagging and tag clouds. I think they have the potential to make a significant difference in clustering information. Is is an fairly easy way to create a navigation structures through one’s own content. Check_ http://delicious.com/tags.mprove/tagging
Regarding the 3D clounds I am with you. They are at most… fancy. But then they should be full screen to be also delightful and invite to play.
-Matthias
17 April 2009 at 7:51 am
Thanks, Matthias.
Just to be clear: I’m not at all against tagging. In fact, I think
there’s a lot of potential there we’re just beginning to uncover.
Tagging is metadata, and that’s a Good Thing.
It’s the representation of tagging (i.e. metadata) in a tag cloud that
I feel is weak. There are ways other than at tag cloud to represent
and leverage tagging.
In other words tagging != tag clouds. Tagging is much bigger than just
tag clouds, which I feel are limiting and a just a trend anyway.
Jim
24 April 2009 at 1:13 pm
“I’m not a huge fan of tag clouds as a navigation mechanism in general”
You’re not the only one to say that, but it astounds me why anyone would think they should be a “navigation system” in the first place. It’s like saying you’re not a fan of tabs as a search mechanism.
Tag clouds are very good at doing a very specific thing: delivering an extremely fast, broad summary of a large amount to textual information. Nothing more. What makes you think they are about navigation?
Granted, they often get *used* for navigation, but that’s just because people are stupid (and why interaction designers have jobs). It does not detract from the fact that tag clouds can be a very useful tool.
24 April 2009 at 4:07 pm
Jonathan,
First, just to be clear I referred to tag clouds as a navigation mechanism, not a system. A mechanism is a cohesive set of links that allow users to navigate content. Second, designers employ tag coulds as navigation: they intend for people to click on the links. So tag clouds are a type of navigation mechanism.
I agree that tag clouds give a quick picture of a text space–they show priority, frequency, and certain zeitgeist. I just don’t think they get people from A to B very well. Again, when you here business people talk and even other designers, “tag cloud” comes up more and more these days as way to provide navigation.
So it’s the way they get used in practice that makes me think that other think they are a good way to navigate.
26 April 2009 at 12:26 pm
Hi Jonathan_
it does not help if you call people stupid who create/have/use tag clouds as a navigation element. As soon as each tag is an active hyperlink you have a navigation — if you want it or not. With respect to the analytical aspects of tag clouds I want to point out that it might be fast to display and read them, but the creation of the tag data takes quite some time and effort. Wordle might be the only exception.
_Matthias
26 April 2009 at 12:33 pm
Jim said, “There are ways other than at tag cloud to represent
and leverage tagging.”
Now that’s interesting. Can you please give a few examples?
I can envision a classical menu navigation based on tag data, updated dynamically when tagging continues. But I am in doubt that such an approach is superior to a manually designed menu/navigation structure.
_Matthias
26 April 2009 at 12:50 pm
Search and search clustering is one common way to use tag metadata. Other folks are looking at the semantic analysis of tagging, specificially at things like co-occurance to generate recommendations and such.
In terms of displaying tags, what’s wrong with a simple list in descreasing order of magnitude? LibraryThing does this on its Zeitgeist page: http://www.librarything.com/zeitgeist (see middle right).
I think Etsy is doing something interesting with its tags to generate the local navigation on the site. That’s how you get “Gother Candle Holders”: http://www.etsy.com/category/candles/holder/gothic
Note that this is what *I think* but I’m not 100% sure–if any one knows exactly, let me know.
The point is:
Tagging != Tag Cloud
…but rather:
Tagging = Metadata
Tag Clouds = Just one representation and use of that metadata.